In Chapter 6 of the Zhuangzi, the student Yan Hui tells Confucius he has "sat and forgotten." Confucius, the supposed master, startles and asks him to explain. That role reversal is the founding scene of zuowang (坐忘, "sitting and forgetting"), one of the oldest named meditation practices in the Taoist tradition. It's not concentration. It's not visualization. It's a deliberate undoing of the self: limbs and body falling away, hearing and sight set aside, merging with what the text calls the Great Thoroughfare. What follows: Guo Xiang's third-century commentary, Sima Chengzhen's Tang Dynasty Zuowanglun, and how the practice survives today.
Start with the word itself. Zuò (坐) means "to sit." Wàng (忘) means "to forget." Put together, they don't describe a technique so much as an outcome. You don't sit in order to concentrate on something. You sit and something falls away.
The scene is worth sitting with on its own terms. Confucius is the fixed point in most of the Analects and most of the Confucian tradition that grew up around him: the teacher, the standard, the one other people measure themselves against. In this passage, he's the one caught off guard. His own student describes an attainment Confucius doesn't have a name for, and instead of correcting Yan Hui, he asks to be taught. Zhuangzi doesn't explain the reversal. He just lets it sit there.
What Yan Hui actually reports is specific: the limbs and body falling away, hearing and sight set aside, merging with what the text calls the Great Thoroughfare. That's not a metaphor for relaxation. It's a description of the ordinary machinery of selfhood, body awareness, sensory input, the felt boundary between "in here" and "out there", being deliberately released rather than sharpened or focused. Most meditation instruction in most traditions asks you to pay closer attention to something. Zuowang asks you to stop paying attention to yourself.
That's why the opening lines matter: "It's not concentration. It's not visualization." Both of those are additive practices. You add a focal point, a breath count, an image, a mantra, something for the mind to hold onto. Zuowang works the other direction. There's nothing to hold. The forgetting isn't a warm-up for some further technique that comes after it. The forgetting is the whole practice, which is part of why it resists being turned into a checklist.
The Zhuangzi is a strange, elliptical text, and readers have needed help with it for as long as it's existed. Guo Xiang, a real commentator working in the third century CE, produced one of the earliest and most influential complete commentaries on the book that survives into the present. For centuries afterward, people encountering a passage like the zuowang scene were reading it through the frame Guo Xiang and commentators like him built around it.
That matters for a practical reason. The Zhuangzi itself never turns zuowang into a method. It gives you one scene, one dialogue, and stops. Everything that comes after, every attempt to explain what the practice actually involves or how someone might approach it, is interpretation layered onto a text that was never trying to be a manual in the first place. Guo Xiang's commentary is the beginning of that layering, not the end of it.
This is worth naming plainly because it's easy to read a passage like the zuowang scene and assume the words on the page are self-explanatory. They aren't, and they never have been, even for readers working in classical Chinese a few centuries after Zhuangzi wrote. A commentary tradition exists because a text this compressed needs one. Anyone explaining what zuowang "means" today, this piece included, is standing somewhere in that same long line of interpretation, not reading the practice straight off the page.
The text that does try to turn zuowang into something closer to a method comes centuries later. Sima Chengzhen (647-735 CE) was a Taoist master active during the Tang Dynasty, and he wrote a treatise called the Zuowanglun (坐忘論, "Treatise on Sitting and Forgetting"). Where the Zhuangzi gives a single scene, Sima Chengzhen gives a structured framework, commonly described as unfolding across seven stages.
The general shape of that framework moves from the outside in. The earlier stages deal with ordinary obstacles: how a person relates to the world, what commitments and attachments still pull at attention, the discipline needed just to sit still with any consistency. The middle stages work on stilling and settling the mind itself, quieting the constant traffic of judgment and reaction. The later stages move toward the kind of absorption the Zhuangzi scene describes directly, culminating in something the text frames as union with the Tao.
It's worth being honest about what's known and what isn't here. The Zuowanglun is a real, documented text with a real seven-part structure. Exactly how each of those seven stages was named and defined is a matter for people working directly from the text and its scholarship, not something to summarize casually. What can be said plainly is that Sima Chengzhen took a scene Zhuangzi left almost entirely undescribed and gave later practitioners a structured place to start.
That gap between the two texts is worth sitting with. Zhuangzi wrote a few hundred words of dialogue. Sima Chengzhen wrote a treatise, centuries later, staged and sequenced, clearly meant for someone who wants to know where to begin and how to tell if they're making progress. The distance between those two documents is the distance between a flash of insight recorded in a story and an attempt to make that insight repeatable. Both belong to the same lineage. They're doing different jobs.
Three terms from the wider Taoist vocabulary sit directly behind zuowang, and understanding them explains why "forgetting" is the goal rather than the obstacle.
Hundun (混沌) means primordial chaos, or undifferentiated unity: the state before things get sorted into categories, before "self" gets separated from "world." Zuowang, read against this term, isn't producing a new mental state so much as returning to one that was there before the sorting started.
Wuwei (無為) means non-action, though that's a misleading translation on its own. It doesn't mean doing nothing. It means acting without forcing, without the friction of a separate self straining to make something happen. It's what's left over when effort stops being effortful.
Ziran (自然) means spontaneity, or naturalness, literally closer to "self-so": the way something behaves when nothing outside it is pushing it around. It's a state, not an achievement. You don't build toward ziran. You stop interfering with it.
Put the three together and zuowang's logic gets clearer. Hundun names the undifferentiated state being returned to. Wuwei and ziran describe what a life looks like once the sitting practice has done its work and the constructed self stops getting in its own way. The forgetting isn't the destination. It's how you clear the obstruction.
Read the opening scene again with these three terms in hand and it stops sounding mystical and starts sounding almost mechanical. Yan Hui isn't describing a vision or a feeling. He's describing a removal: body awareness gone, hearing and sight set aside, merged with the Great Thoroughfare. Strip away what's constructed, Zhuangzi is suggesting, and what's left isn't emptiness. It's hundun, the condition underneath the construction, and a person living from that condition acts with wuwei and shows up as ziran, without anyone having to tell them how.
Taoist meditation and Chan Buddhist meditation developed alongside each other in China, especially from the Tang Dynasty onward, the same period Sima Chengzhen was writing in, and the two plainly shaped each other. Both traditions distrust ordinary discursive thought as a path to insight, and both center some form of deliberately stilling the mind rather than filling it. Beyond that general point, the two practices come out of different doctrinal frameworks with different vocabularies and different stated goals. Zuowang aims at merging with the Tao and returning to hundun, not at the specific goals Buddhist traditions describe in their own terms, and it's worth resisting the urge to flatten one tradition into a translation of the other.
The practice didn't stop developing with Sima Chengzhen. The Quanzhen School, a real historical Taoist school that emerged later and remains active today, carried zuowang-adjacent practice forward as part of a broader tradition of internal cultivation. The specifics of how any given lineage within Quanzhen teaches sitting-and-forgetting today vary, and it's worth being skeptical of anyone presenting a single, standardized modern version as the authentic one. What's stable across the centuries is the core move Yan Hui described to a startled Confucius: not concentrating harder, but forgetting on purpose.
That continuity is easy to overstate and worth being careful with. A twenty-first-century Quanzhen monastery and a fourth-century-BCE parable aren't the same thing wearing different clothes. What connects them is a shared reference point, the same scene, the same two characters, the same claim that forgetting yourself is the practice rather than a side effect of it. Every generation in between has had to figure out for itself what that actually looks like in a room, on a cushion, over years. The texts hand down the goal. They don't hand down the doing of it.
A few things are missing from this piece that a reader might expect: a numbered breakdown of Sima Chengzhen's seven stages by name, a step-by-step routine with sitting times, a tidy chart lining zuowang up against Buddhist meditation term for term. Those are the kinds of details that make a page look complete. They're also the kinds of details that are easy to get wrong or dress up with more confidence than the underlying sourcing supports.
The honest version of this topic is a little less tidy than that. The Zhuangzi gives one scene. Guo Xiang and later commentators built interpretation on top of it. Sima Chengzhen gave it a staged structure centuries after the fact. None of that adds up to a modern how-to guide, and pretending otherwise would say more about the desire for a clean answer than about the practice itself.
Come back to the original dialogue with all of that in view. Confucius, the standard everyone else measured against, sits across from his own student and doesn't understand what Yan Hui just told him. He has to ask. Two thousand years of commentary, a Tang Dynasty treatise, a surviving school of practice, and none of it changes what actually happens in the scene: a student out-forgets his teacher, and the teacher, to his credit, wants to know how.
The Zhuangzi never tells you what to do with your hands. It tells you a student sat down and let go of enough of himself that his teacher didn't recognize what he'd become. That's the whole instruction, and it's also why nobody has finished explaining it. For a closer look at how later Taoist hermits actually lived this out in practice, see Taoist Hermits and the Art of Zuowang, Part 2.

In Chapter 6 of the Zhuangzi, the student Yan Hui tells Confucius he has "sat and forgotten." Confucius, the supposed master, startles and asks him to explain. That role reversal is the founding scene of zuowang (坐忘, "sitting and forgetting"), one of the oldest named meditation practices in the Taoist tradition. It's not concentration. It's not visualization. It's a deliberate undoing of the self: limbs and body falling away, hearing and sight set aside, merging with what the text calls the Great Thoroughfare. What follows: Guo Xiang's third-century commentary, Sima Chengzhen's Tang Dynasty Zuowanglun, and how the practice survives today.
Start with the word itself. Zuò (坐) means "to sit." Wàng (忘) means "to forget." Put together, they don't describe a technique so much as an outcome. You don't sit in order to concentrate on something. You sit and something falls away.
The scene is worth sitting with on its own terms. Confucius is the fixed point in most of the Analects and most of the Confucian tradition that grew up around him: the teacher, the standard, the one other people measure themselves against. In this passage, he's the one caught off guard. His own student describes an attainment Confucius doesn't have a name for, and instead of correcting Yan Hui, he asks to be taught. Zhuangzi doesn't explain the reversal. He just lets it sit there.
What Yan Hui actually reports is specific: the limbs and body falling away, hearing and sight set aside, merging with what the text calls the Great Thoroughfare. That's not a metaphor for relaxation. It's a description of the ordinary machinery of selfhood, body awareness, sensory input, the felt boundary between "in here" and "out there", being deliberately released rather than sharpened or focused. Most meditation instruction in most traditions asks you to pay closer attention to something. Zuowang asks you to stop paying attention to yourself.
That's why the opening lines matter: "It's not concentration. It's not visualization." Both of those are additive practices. You add a focal point, a breath count, an image, a mantra, something for the mind to hold onto. Zuowang works the other direction. There's nothing to hold. The forgetting isn't a warm-up for some further technique that comes after it. The forgetting is the whole practice, which is part of why it resists being turned into a checklist.
The Zhuangzi is a strange, elliptical text, and readers have needed help with it for as long as it's existed. Guo Xiang, a real commentator working in the third century CE, produced one of the earliest and most influential complete commentaries on the book that survives into the present. For centuries afterward, people encountering a passage like the zuowang scene were reading it through the frame Guo Xiang and commentators like him built around it.
That matters for a practical reason. The Zhuangzi itself never turns zuowang into a method. It gives you one scene, one dialogue, and stops. Everything that comes after, every attempt to explain what the practice actually involves or how someone might approach it, is interpretation layered onto a text that was never trying to be a manual in the first place. Guo Xiang's commentary is the beginning of that layering, not the end of it.
This is worth naming plainly because it's easy to read a passage like the zuowang scene and assume the words on the page are self-explanatory. They aren't, and they never have been, even for readers working in classical Chinese a few centuries after Zhuangzi wrote. A commentary tradition exists because a text this compressed needs one. Anyone explaining what zuowang "means" today, this piece included, is standing somewhere in that same long line of interpretation, not reading the practice straight off the page.
The text that does try to turn zuowang into something closer to a method comes centuries later. Sima Chengzhen (647-735 CE) was a Taoist master active during the Tang Dynasty, and he wrote a treatise called the Zuowanglun (坐忘論, "Treatise on Sitting and Forgetting"). Where the Zhuangzi gives a single scene, Sima Chengzhen gives a structured framework, commonly described as unfolding across seven stages.
The general shape of that framework moves from the outside in. The earlier stages deal with ordinary obstacles: how a person relates to the world, what commitments and attachments still pull at attention, the discipline needed just to sit still with any consistency. The middle stages work on stilling and settling the mind itself, quieting the constant traffic of judgment and reaction. The later stages move toward the kind of absorption the Zhuangzi scene describes directly, culminating in something the text frames as union with the Tao.
It's worth being honest about what's known and what isn't here. The Zuowanglun is a real, documented text with a real seven-part structure. Exactly how each of those seven stages was named and defined is a matter for people working directly from the text and its scholarship, not something to summarize casually. What can be said plainly is that Sima Chengzhen took a scene Zhuangzi left almost entirely undescribed and gave later practitioners a structured place to start.
That gap between the two texts is worth sitting with. Zhuangzi wrote a few hundred words of dialogue. Sima Chengzhen wrote a treatise, centuries later, staged and sequenced, clearly meant for someone who wants to know where to begin and how to tell if they're making progress. The distance between those two documents is the distance between a flash of insight recorded in a story and an attempt to make that insight repeatable. Both belong to the same lineage. They're doing different jobs.
Three terms from the wider Taoist vocabulary sit directly behind zuowang, and understanding them explains why "forgetting" is the goal rather than the obstacle.
Hundun (混沌) means primordial chaos, or undifferentiated unity: the state before things get sorted into categories, before "self" gets separated from "world." Zuowang, read against this term, isn't producing a new mental state so much as returning to one that was there before the sorting started.
Wuwei (無為) means non-action, though that's a misleading translation on its own. It doesn't mean doing nothing. It means acting without forcing, without the friction of a separate self straining to make something happen. It's what's left over when effort stops being effortful.
Ziran (自然) means spontaneity, or naturalness, literally closer to "self-so": the way something behaves when nothing outside it is pushing it around. It's a state, not an achievement. You don't build toward ziran. You stop interfering with it.
Put the three together and zuowang's logic gets clearer. Hundun names the undifferentiated state being returned to. Wuwei and ziran describe what a life looks like once the sitting practice has done its work and the constructed self stops getting in its own way. The forgetting isn't the destination. It's how you clear the obstruction.
Read the opening scene again with these three terms in hand and it stops sounding mystical and starts sounding almost mechanical. Yan Hui isn't describing a vision or a feeling. He's describing a removal: body awareness gone, hearing and sight set aside, merged with the Great Thoroughfare. Strip away what's constructed, Zhuangzi is suggesting, and what's left isn't emptiness. It's hundun, the condition underneath the construction, and a person living from that condition acts with wuwei and shows up as ziran, without anyone having to tell them how.
Taoist meditation and Chan Buddhist meditation developed alongside each other in China, especially from the Tang Dynasty onward, the same period Sima Chengzhen was writing in, and the two plainly shaped each other. Both traditions distrust ordinary discursive thought as a path to insight, and both center some form of deliberately stilling the mind rather than filling it. Beyond that general point, the two practices come out of different doctrinal frameworks with different vocabularies and different stated goals. Zuowang aims at merging with the Tao and returning to hundun, not at the specific goals Buddhist traditions describe in their own terms, and it's worth resisting the urge to flatten one tradition into a translation of the other.
The practice didn't stop developing with Sima Chengzhen. The Quanzhen School, a real historical Taoist school that emerged later and remains active today, carried zuowang-adjacent practice forward as part of a broader tradition of internal cultivation. The specifics of how any given lineage within Quanzhen teaches sitting-and-forgetting today vary, and it's worth being skeptical of anyone presenting a single, standardized modern version as the authentic one. What's stable across the centuries is the core move Yan Hui described to a startled Confucius: not concentrating harder, but forgetting on purpose.
That continuity is easy to overstate and worth being careful with. A twenty-first-century Quanzhen monastery and a fourth-century-BCE parable aren't the same thing wearing different clothes. What connects them is a shared reference point, the same scene, the same two characters, the same claim that forgetting yourself is the practice rather than a side effect of it. Every generation in between has had to figure out for itself what that actually looks like in a room, on a cushion, over years. The texts hand down the goal. They don't hand down the doing of it.
A few things are missing from this piece that a reader might expect: a numbered breakdown of Sima Chengzhen's seven stages by name, a step-by-step routine with sitting times, a tidy chart lining zuowang up against Buddhist meditation term for term. Those are the kinds of details that make a page look complete. They're also the kinds of details that are easy to get wrong or dress up with more confidence than the underlying sourcing supports.
The honest version of this topic is a little less tidy than that. The Zhuangzi gives one scene. Guo Xiang and later commentators built interpretation on top of it. Sima Chengzhen gave it a staged structure centuries after the fact. None of that adds up to a modern how-to guide, and pretending otherwise would say more about the desire for a clean answer than about the practice itself.
Come back to the original dialogue with all of that in view. Confucius, the standard everyone else measured against, sits across from his own student and doesn't understand what Yan Hui just told him. He has to ask. Two thousand years of commentary, a Tang Dynasty treatise, a surviving school of practice, and none of it changes what actually happens in the scene: a student out-forgets his teacher, and the teacher, to his credit, wants to know how.
The Zhuangzi never tells you what to do with your hands. It tells you a student sat down and let go of enough of himself that his teacher didn't recognize what he'd become. That's the whole instruction, and it's also why nobody has finished explaining it. For a closer look at how later Taoist hermits actually lived this out in practice, see Taoist Hermits and the Art of Zuowang, Part 2.